...every time I see a fic labeled as Kara/Leoben, I run away screaming.
I'm right there running with you! ;)
Leoban annoys me not only because he talks in this so-called riddles, but also because he's the one that brought on this "destiny" stuff.
I wish the writers allowed Kara solid character growth like Lee had. Instead, I see her as being "over-worked". If there are indeed changes to the character (which I failed to see so far), they didn't come from within (i.e. her maturing process). These changes are the work of some unknow, possibly mystic power that's outside of her control. As such, Kara had become a symbolic token, a mere caricature to me. :(
I don't understand where the Cylons come from.
Hee, I've been wondering along the same line. Why did the Centurions rebel the first time? Back then, did they have the "reasoning chips" that Six/Natalie gave them in Six of One? I'm inclined to think they had to have them in order to be able to *rebel* against their masters.
So I think the reasoning ability was taken away from them after those "skin-head" cylons came along. But by whom? The skin-head cylons? Or their common "creator"? This begs the question: who/what created the humanoid cylons?
If the Centurions did, they were in for a rotten deal: instead of being "enslaved" by the humans (don't ask me how do one enslave a machine), they are now enslaved by their own creations!
The more I think about it, the more I don't believe the Centurions created the 12 models. Maybe "mad" human scientist(s) created them despite the fact human were at war with the robots...
The point is though, when it comes down to it, I don't really care about how did the cylons come along, or who they really are. They don't interest me all that much beyond being the antagonists. It worries me when the writers decide to take away the antagonists in a story, or turn them into protagonists -- I would've felt very cheated!
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I'm right there running with you! ;)
Leoban annoys me not only because he talks in this so-called riddles, but also because he's the one that brought on this "destiny" stuff.
I wish the writers allowed Kara solid character growth like Lee had. Instead, I see her as being "over-worked". If there are indeed changes to the character (which I failed to see so far), they didn't come from within (i.e. her maturing process). These changes are the work of some unknow, possibly mystic power that's outside of her control. As such, Kara had become a symbolic token, a mere caricature to me. :(
Hee, I've been wondering along the same line. Why did the Centurions rebel the first time? Back then, did they have the "reasoning chips" that Six/Natalie gave them in Six of One? I'm inclined to think they had to have them in order to be able to *rebel* against their masters.
So I think the reasoning ability was taken away from them after those "skin-head" cylons came along. But by whom? The skin-head cylons? Or their common "creator"? This begs the question: who/what created the humanoid cylons?
If the Centurions did, they were in for a rotten deal: instead of being "enslaved" by the humans (don't ask me how do one enslave a machine), they are now enslaved by their own creations!
The more I think about it, the more I don't believe the Centurions created the 12 models. Maybe "mad" human scientist(s) created them despite the fact human were at war with the robots...
The point is though, when it comes down to it, I don't really care about how did the cylons come along, or who they really are. They don't interest me all that much beyond being the antagonists. It worries me when the writers decide to take away the antagonists in a story, or turn them into protagonists -- I would've felt very cheated!